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Signifigance of 5050 pts????
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Brian Hoffmann
2004-01-22 12:22:42 UTC
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Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?

I tried the simple stuff like 5050/26 races (194.2)... nope, no workie
I tried 5050/36 (140.2).... nope no workie..

Can a stats person like Cru Figure this out.
Maybe there is no real signifigance other than
it's more that you could possibly earn in 26 races if you won every one.
I just thought there may be a play on the numbers..

Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!

BrH
WildWeasel
2004-01-22 13:33:56 UTC
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"Brian Hoffmann" wrote...
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?
After socialism hits everyone has a 50/50 chance of being champ?

(I know, really 1/10 but: 1) this is nascarmath and 2) 110 pts would put the
leader dead last and 3) 50/50 is the definition of parity.)
M&B
2004-01-22 13:48:32 UTC
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Post by Brian Hoffmann
Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!
BrH
just use the ones that are important.
1,5,10,20,50,100. use a "k" here and there and a couple of these $$$ and
you're good to go.

mike.........
Julia
2004-01-22 16:03:50 UTC
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Post by Brian Hoffmann
Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?
I tried the simple stuff like 5050/26 races (194.2)... nope, no workie
I tried 5050/36 (140.2).... nope no workie..
Can a stats person like Cru Figure this out.
Maybe there is no real signifigance other than
it's more that you could possibly earn in 26 races if you won every
one. I just thought there may be a play on the numbers..
Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!
BrH
I don't know. I do remember France saying something to the effect of they
wanted the amount to be enough to separate them from the rest of the field.
4940 points is the most a driver can earn if he were to win every race (and
lead the most laps) for the first 26 races. So maybe they took that number,
rounded it up to 5000 (to make it easier) and made that the minimum a driver
in the "chase" can have (anyone not in the top ten but within a four hundred
points is going to be given 5000 pts). Then if you add 5 points for each
spot to that 5000 (5005 for 10th, 5010 for 9th, etc...) the number you get
for first is 5050. That would be my best guess anyway, but I am far from
being any sort of numbers person. I'm sure there is a better reason /
explanation than that out there.
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Crusader
2004-01-22 21:20:48 UTC
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That's as good a guess as anyone's Julia, however
i think Weasel's guess is more accurate ;)
50/50 chance indeed!
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Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?
I tried the simple stuff like 5050/26 races (194.2)... nope, no workie
I tried 5050/36 (140.2).... nope no workie..
Can a stats person like Cru Figure this out.
Maybe there is no real signifigance other than
it's more that you could possibly earn in 26 races if you won every
one. I just thought there may be a play on the numbers..
Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!
BrH
I don't know. I do remember France saying something to the effect of they
wanted the amount to be enough to separate them from the rest of the field.
4940 points is the most a driver can earn if he were to win every race (and
lead the most laps) for the first 26 races. So maybe they took that number,
rounded it up to 5000 (to make it easier) and made that the minimum a driver
in the "chase" can have (anyone not in the top ten but within a four hundred
points is going to be given 5000 pts). Then if you add 5 points for each
spot to that 5000 (5005 for 10th, 5010 for 9th, etc...) the number you get
for first is 5050. That would be my best guess anyway, but I am far from
being any sort of numbers person. I'm sure there is a better reason /
explanation than that out there.
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Julia
2004-01-22 22:42:42 UTC
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Post by Crusader
That's as good a guess as anyone's Julia, however
i think Weasel's guess is more accurate ;)
50/50 chance indeed!
yep... it would seem to follow their kinda logic. I don't know why I bother
trying to think of reasons behind some of the things they do when they
clearly don't put that much thought into into the reasoning.
Post by Crusader
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?
I tried the simple stuff like 5050/26 races (194.2)... nope, no
workie I tried 5050/36 (140.2).... nope no workie..
Can a stats person like Cru Figure this out.
Maybe there is no real signifigance other than
it's more that you could possibly earn in 26 races if you won every
one. I just thought there may be a play on the numbers..
Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!
BrH
I don't know. I do remember France saying something to the effect
of they wanted the amount to be enough to separate them from the
rest of the field. 4940 points is the most a driver can earn if he
were to win every race (and lead the most laps) for the first 26
races. So maybe they took that number, rounded it up to 5000 (to
make it easier) and made that the minimum a driver in the "chase"
can have (anyone not in the top ten but within a four hundred points
is going to be given 5000 pts). Then if you add 5 points for each
spot to that 5000 (5005 for 10th, 5010 for 9th, etc...) the number
you get for first is 5050. That would be my best guess anyway, but
I am far from being any sort of numbers person. I'm sure there is a
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BF
2004-01-22 17:40:48 UTC
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It is just like everything else nascar does. There doesn't have to be
any reason for what they do, they just do what they want. Frances IQ
is 50 and Helton's is 50 so 5050.
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Does anyone have any ideas as to why they chose 5050 for the leader
going into race # 27?
I tried the simple stuff like 5050/26 races (194.2)... nope, no workie
I tried 5050/36 (140.2).... nope no workie..
Can a stats person like Cru Figure this out.
Maybe there is no real signifigance other than
it's more that you could possibly earn in 26 races if you won every one.
I just thought there may be a play on the numbers..
Like Ms G, I'm not great with numbers, there's too many of them!
BrH
NASCARWife
2004-01-22 17:58:57 UTC
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It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up and finish
with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
BF
2004-01-22 19:13:41 UTC
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Why not 4236 or 10,003 or 5049?
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up and finish
with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
M&B
2004-01-22 19:23:51 UTC
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Post by BF
Why not 4236 or 10,003 or 5049?
why not start with negative numbers and race back to zero.



mike........
BF
2004-01-22 19:50:40 UTC
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Post by M&B
Post by BF
Why not 4236 or 10,003 or 5049?
why not start with negative numbers and race back to zero.
mike........
Right.
Brian Hoffmann
2004-01-23 11:59:44 UTC
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Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up and finish
with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than can be
reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as another poster
replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?

I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why 5050 was
used
Julia
2004-01-23 13:02:20 UTC
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Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up
and finish with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than can be
reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as another
poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why 5050
was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think in the
same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening prospect though.
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Brian Hoffmann
2004-01-23 13:28:37 UTC
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Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up
and finish with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than can be
reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as another
poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why 5050
was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think in the
same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening prospect though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)

LoL!!!
Post by Julia
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Julia
2004-01-23 17:22:36 UTC
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Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up
and finish with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than can
be reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as
another poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why 5050
was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think in
the same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening prospect
though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)
LoL!!!
LOL.... Nah, I'm sure I don't have that special "it" that it would take to
be a part of that NASCAR think tank... if I have any insight at all into
their thought process I'm sure it is do to my years of experience as a
learning specialist with special ed. students... ;)
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Sanitarium
2004-01-23 18:15:33 UTC
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Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't
come up
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
and finish with more points than someone that is in the
Chase.
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher
than can
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
be reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not,
as
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
another poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why 5050
was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to
think in
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
the same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening
prospect
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)
LoL!!!
LOL.... Nah, I'm sure I don't have that special "it" that it
would take to
Post by Julia
be a part of that NASCAR think tank... if I have any insight at all into
their thought process I'm sure it is do to my years of
experience as a
Post by Julia
learning specialist with special ed. students... ;)
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ROTFLMFAO

Your thoughts on the 50/50 makes the most sense, though they will
never admit it if indeed that was their thinking. Race hard for
almost 2/3 of the season then those fortunate enough got a 50/50
chance for the championship more or less.
Julia
2004-01-23 18:30:15 UTC
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Post by Sanitarium
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up
and finish with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than
can be reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as
another poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why
5050 was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think
in the same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening
prospect though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)
LoL!!!
LOL.... Nah, I'm sure I don't have that special "it" that it would
take to be a part of that NASCAR think tank... if I have any insight
at all into their thought process I'm sure it is do to my years of
experience as a learning specialist with special ed. students... ;)
--
ROTFLMFAO
Your thoughts on the 50/50 makes the most sense, though they will
never admit it if indeed that was their thinking. Race hard for
almost 2/3 of the season then those fortunate enough got a 50/50
chance for the championship more or less.
all the credit for the 50/50 thoughts should go directly to Wild Weasel, as
he is the originator of that plan. I was silly enough to think there may be
some rhyme and reason as to how they came up with the number ~ imagine
that?!?!
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Crusader
2004-01-24 00:18:52 UTC
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Post by Julia
Post by Sanitarium
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up
and finish with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than
can be reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as
another poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why
5050 was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think
in the same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening
prospect though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)
LoL!!!
LOL.... Nah, I'm sure I don't have that special "it" that it would
take to be a part of that NASCAR think tank... if I have any insight
at all into their thought process I'm sure it is do to my years of
experience as a learning specialist with special ed. students... ;)
Thanx for letting me know why u respond to my posts.
I knew there was something special about u...and about me;)
CRU
Post by Julia
Post by Sanitarium
Post by Julia
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ROTFLMFAO
Your thoughts on the 50/50 makes the most sense, though they will
never admit it if indeed that was their thinking. Race hard for
almost 2/3 of the season then those fortunate enough got a 50/50
chance for the championship more or less.
all the credit for the 50/50 thoughts should go directly to Wild Weasel, as
he is the originator of that plan. I was silly enough to think there may be
some rhyme and reason as to how they came up with the number ~ imagine
that?!?!
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Julia
2004-01-24 04:00:41 UTC
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Post by Crusader
Post by Julia
Post by Sanitarium
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by Julia
Post by Brian Hoffmann
Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come
up and finish with more points than someone that is in the
Chase.
Wow, ya think? just kidding! I realize that 5050 is higher than
can be reached by those not
in the "Chase"
I'm talking about the number 5050 itself why 5050 and not, as
another poster replyed,
10564, 100,000,000, why 5050?
I like Julias theory, it seems to fit almost perfectly with why
5050 was used
Well thanks... I think. But the idea that I may be able to think
in the same way as those nutty NASCAR people is frightening
prospect though.
Apply for a job!!!....:)
You seem to have what "it" takes....:)
LoL!!!
LOL.... Nah, I'm sure I don't have that special "it" that it would
take to be a part of that NASCAR think tank... if I have any
insight at all into their thought process I'm sure it is do to my
years of experience as a learning specialist with special ed.
students... ;)
Thanx for letting me know why u respond to my posts.
I knew there was something special about u...and about me;)
CRU
LOL... I don't think that my being a learning specialist has anything to do
with why I respond to you.... and of course there is something special about
you ~ there is something special about everyone. Haven't you ever seen
Barney (the purple dinosaur)?!?!

BTW ~ it took all the restraint I had, not to delete the rest of this post,
but I'm gonna keep that cut and paste promise... at least through the
weekend, maybe...;)
Post by Crusader
Post by Julia
Post by Sanitarium
Post by Julia
--
ROTFLMFAO
Your thoughts on the 50/50 makes the most sense, though they will
never admit it if indeed that was their thinking. Race hard for
almost 2/3 of the season then those fortunate enough got a 50/50
chance for the championship more or less.
all the credit for the 50/50 thoughts should go directly to Wild
Weasel, as he is the originator of that plan. I was silly enough to
think there may be some rhyme and reason as to how they came up with
the number ~ imagine that?!?!
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Biffan
2004-01-25 15:37:13 UTC
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Post by NASCARWife
It's set so high so that drivers not in the "Chase" can't come up and finish
with more points than someone that is in the Chase.
Which is a disgrace, flawed to a fault, and discriminatory. I will continue to
count under the old system and consider the proper champion in my own eyes.

Bah on NA$CAR anyway.

Big Bill would come back and bite these idiots in the butt for perpetuating the
same fraud he started the original NASCAR to free the drivers from.


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